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Old 12-19-2011, 04:59 PM
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Having a rough day! Questions about CBT

I'm having a really tough day with PVCs. Just can't see to get them to settle down, or myself for that matter. Been going on for a few hours now. Want so badly to go to Dr. Atleast there I feel "safe"

Anyway im posting to distract myself so I do have a question about cbt. What exactly is it in normal ppl language and how exactly does it help with having PVCs? I know for me panic and anxiety are FROM the PVCs. So if they would just leave, so would the anxiety. So how will CBT be useful for me and will it help me change what I'm thinking is subconscious anxiety about PVCs thus bringing the PVCs on?

I'm really really struggling with these darn things. I feel like I will never be abe to accept them. I bought the Relaxation Response book today and am interested in other reading. Thanks for letting me post as a distraction. It'd been a trying day as I'm having PVCs every minute atleast if of every few beats. Out Christmas shopping with family but ready to go home and crawl in bed! of course this is t what my family wants go do...
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:25 PM
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Hello!!

I dont know much about CBT but I do hope your feeling better soon. Keep your head up!! HUGGS!!
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Anyway im posting to distract myself so I do have a question about cbt. What exactly is it in normal ppl language and how exactly does it help with having PVCs? I know for me panic and anxiety are FROM the PVCs. So if they would just leave, so would the anxiety.
Actually CBT, or Cognitive Behavior Therapy helps to put the cart before the horse. The PVCs most likely WON'T leave as long as you are stressed--the more panicky, the more you have. So, it becomes a vicious cycle, and the more anxious you are, the more skipped beats you get. So, it goes around in circles--"I will feel better, if they go away." However, as long as you are anxious about them, they won't go away--trust me on this--that is my experience.

CBT helps break that vicious cycle, by training the mind to react differently in stress and potential panic situations. When you get that scary anxiety, you need to be thinking about something else but your heart, and the skips. Easy to say--YES. Easy to do--NO! So, you need lessons and a structure to train yourself not to react to the PVCs, and to build an alternate consciousness in which you just dismiss the PVCs as "normal" and go on with things. Is this easy? No. Does it take mind conditioning, and alternate senario building? Yes. Does it work--for me it does. So, I do recommend it for folks like us, who are trapped in that never-ending round and round with anxiety and physical symptoms. By the way, I had PVCs for 3 1/2 weeks EVERY DAY for hours. Was it driving me crazy---yes. Can I cope with it better due to therapy--absolutely!!!!!
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:07 AM
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Thanks. I need to look into the books you suggested. And do some more reading. I willing to try !!!
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:46 AM
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CBT helps you to retrain your brain. It helps you to think differently about the palps, and be more accepting. They make you think "worse case" and "hey maybe this isn't so bad."

CBT takes time and effort from all parties and it's not for everyone. But it can help, a lot
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:04 AM
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My biggest problem is that my mind thinks about the every Minute of every day.bevel if I'm not having them I'm constantly aware of my hb and constantly wondering if and when they will come. I Lay in bed in the morning and think about it and pray about it. Then a couple minutes after I get up wham they hit. I have this jittery shaky feeling inside my body (adrenaline I'm assuming?) and constant palps. But since I think about them non stop, no wonder huh? So somehow I need to figure out how to get my mind off thinking about it all day long
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:48 AM
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I had the exact same problem. Keep urself extremely busy. Don't sit still. Organize, clean, prepare meals for the freezer etc. Take the kids outside for a walk. It'll not only distract your mind, but it'll burn some of that adrenaline! It worked for me when I was overwhelmed and stuck sitting down afraid to move afraid to be alone afraid of everything or anything that would set them off.
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Old 12-20-2011, 01:23 PM
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@CMoore416 - The only way to take your mind off of it is to engage in activities that force you to be engaged. Do you have kids? Do you have hobbies? Do something that involves you moving around, which makes it harder to take a second and check your pulse, and makes it harder to sense a PVC here or there. So, no reading. No jewelry making. No scrapbooking.

Go mall walking. Go shopping, even. Volunteer to pick up trash on the side of the highway. Something that requires you to move and engages your brain at least a little. Sounds like you pray a lot - do you attend church? Volunteer at your church. But volunteer to DO stuff. Not praying stuff, though. Not an activity that requires you to sit still and be silent. Don't worry - I think God will understand, and will cut you some slack.

And I don't care if you're afraid. Do it anyway. If you feel the need to take precautions, then do that. But do SOMETHING. (this is the tough love part)
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Yes I do need to do something. Since all this started I have done nothing but sit. This morning I ran a couple errands and was fine. ALthough I was thinking about them. Now Im home sitting eating lunch and WHAM - theeeeyre baaaack. LOL Even if I stay busy I feel like there is bubbles popping in my chest. I cant ignore the feelings. But baby steps I guess. Im trying to remain calm - my sister in law is coming over to make cookies with the kids, so I need to distract myself for now. I have an eye twitch going on - stress symptom for me - and I know my body is just so stressed out subconsiously - it doenst know what to do anymore. I appreciate the tough love! LOL
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:15 PM
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What are your hobbies?

What gets you out of the house?
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